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PostSubject: Link's Father?   Mon Aug 02, 2010 11:16 am

I strongly Believe that TP Link's Father is OoT Link.
Because:

He Resembles a stalfos: Which means he got lost in the lost woods.
Has old master sword and MM shield.
At Skill 5 He says:
"These skill shall stay a secret within OUR Bloodline."
At the Last Skill he calls Link "my son"

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PostSubject: Re: Link's Father?   Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:32 pm

This theory has been touched upon many times in the Zelda community. I don't believe it.

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He Resembles a stalfos: Which means he got lost in the lost woods.

I doubt the Hero of Time would get lost in the Lost Woods, or even if he did, wouldn't the Triforce of Courage protect him like it did in the Twilight Realm?

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Has old master sword and MM shield.

Here's a pic:




His shield is round, and none of Link's shields have ever been round. As for the sword, it looks a bit like the Master Sword, but you say it's the old Master Sword. Are you saying there's more than one?

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At Skill 5 He says:
"These skill shall stay a secret within OUR Bloodline."

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At the Last Skill he calls Link "my son"

I can't really oppose these because they're actual lines from the game. They do make an interesting point though.

That's all I got. Let the debate begin Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Link's Father?   Mon Aug 02, 2010 2:47 pm

By old I mean it is rusty and worn. But if you are not a Kokiri and you get lost in the Lost Woods you get turned into a Stalfos. MM shield was round correct. Did the tri force guide him on his search to find Navi. So Link after MM got lost in the Lost Woods and Died. He is a ghost/spirit so he has a ghost spirit sword.

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PostSubject: Re: Link's Father?   Mon Aug 02, 2010 10:46 pm

Ok, so I wasn't originally gonna post on this. But I got bored and started typing my views on the topic any ways. Since I wasn't worried about posting I started going off in a totaly different direction, and although it kind of breaks from the topic by a lot, I some how managed to finally put into words what I always believed about Link in the Legend of Zelda! So feel free to tl;dr if you want. But after typing all this. I kind of have to post it, just tag it "One of Link64's Rants" and skip over it if you want. But I'm telling you! I'm am soooooo saving it any ways!

Alright, this is where it starts. This part is fairly relevant to the topic!

Well, the idea of having your own aged version of the Master Sword as a spirtual symbol can make since. But he didn't have the Master Sword any time after OOT. And though the Mirror Shield in MM WAS round, lets face it! It was STEEL! Not exatly a "Crumblesome" material. And then you have to question the wolf symbolism, OOT Link had nothing to do with Wolves!
In all honesty the character's armor better resembles TP Link's Rupee armor anyways, not counting the helmet which is notably similar to the helmets of WW's Darknuts!

Now, it is true that children lost in the forest become SkullKids, adults become Stalfos, and even odder still in FourSwords Adventure it is claimed that people can become Deku Scrubs! But lets face it, for one reason or another (Triforce, rasied as a Kokiri, or just sheer luck) he has never had troubles traveling through the lost woods before! I can't imagine why he would now. Comicly on my own terms, (having seen Link's various cameos in various game series) I like to think the Hero of Time just kept exploring new lands and helping others long untill his own elderly death. (EG "Here lies Link")

That being said! There is no doubt in my mind that the Skull Knight and TP Link are father-son, and minimal doubt that the two are both related to OOT Link, and every OTHER Link for that matter!

This is kind of where I started going off topic by about a lot!

It was aLttP that pretty much described Link's family tree! Link, EVERY LINK! As well as their father's before them are all linked to, related to, decendent from, or staight up ARE a part of the Hyrulian Knights! The warriors born to protect the kingdom and it's royal family. (In a true Spartan's-decendent-of-Hercules style) It can be said that every great Hylian warrior in Hyrule is related to one another through one blood line or another. Much as how the Triforce of Wisdom is passed from Princess to Princess in the family, it could be said that so to does the Triforce of Courage.
Of course, it was the old school Zelda games that revealed how leaving the kingdom "Seperates you from the elements that make you a hero" shattering the triforce into 8 convenient pieces. OOT Link left Hyrule loosing the ToC (Considering the split timeline theory, he may have never had it to begin with and another later hero had to come forth from the blood line, recieve it, and in the end break it) But for one reason or another, WW Link was decendent from the Hyrulian Knights, but not OOT Link directly (As the KoRL said to Jubun) and so it took a while for the wheels of fate to begin turning again and find the new hero to reassemble the ToC. (Or perhaps it could be that fate purposely waited that long!)

So basicly, long story short, I don't think the Skull Knight is a Link (A Hero of Hyrule) but simply just a Knight! But though he is not a Link, the only real reason he is a Warrior Knight is BECAUSE he is related to the Hyrulian Knights and related to the other Links...and..wait.... hold on.... maybe a better way to put it is.....

K, by this point I'm just rephrasing what I just said, but there is so much more behind it! This is where I finally put into words, FOR THE FIRST TIME, what I feel about Link in tLoz! This is part is the reason why I posted this mess!

Fate created a Blood Line. A blood line perhaps all from one man, the ORIGINAL Link, the FIRST Hyrulian Hero! The one that protected the sages who first sealed the Sacred Realm from greedy hands. And whom first wielded that Blade of Evil's Bane when those sages first forged it! LONG before the Triforce was ever actually split! The men in this blood line, decendent from that man, were all natrual born fighters and were all recruited, not just by the King but by Fate itself, to protect the Kingdom. These men became the Hryulian Knights. Of course after years of war, upheaval, and various "re-establishments" of peace this blood line was scattered all through out the kingdom all through out the ages. But that didn't prevent the men of this blood line from protecting the kingdom any less!
The truly interesting thing about this blood line wasn't the fact that it's members were all great warriors, but that in a time of great need, when the kingdom was truly in peril, fate would pick one boy from this blood line, perhaps even fating him with this destiny before his own birth (Fate being omniscient and all) and naming him NOT a Warrior (A Hyrulian Knight), but instead a Hero (A "Link"). And so these heroic "Links" would go forth, never questioning their fate, and defeat whatever force dared threaten the kingdom. Using any and all weapons offered to them, mystical, legendary, or otherwise!

Now, it's only natrual that, when split, the Triforce would pick a member of this mighty blood line to entrust it's courageous third too. And of course, like the blood itself, the triforce passes from father to son. And considering the fact that more often than not the different Heroes of Hyrule are not just generations but instead whole eras apart, it is safe to say you don't have to be a "Link" to simply have and carry the ToC. Fate has made it to where you only have to be a decendent of the Hyrulian Knights. It would appear instead, that USING the Triforce is the only privilege entitled to those who carry the name "Link".

But then that brings up the question of what exactly does the ToC do? Its powers have never been as prevelent as the other two! My belief is that (Since no Link as ever died in his quest canicly speaking) one could say it's the power of being the GOOD guy! Essentially, you always end up winning in the long run!
Or perhaps it's something more along the lines of "The bigger you are, the stronger I am" (Link's motto I'm telling ya!) I've always found smaller bosses to be more trouble than the more larger, more epic, more STRAIGHT FORWARD ones. (I have examples if needed, bigger bosses are always easier and less deadly. At least for me!) Either way, one thing we do know is that unlike the blood which always stays with you, the Triforce's flaw (Or fail-safe! As the case may be) is that it absolutely MUST stay in Hryule. Less it breaks into pieces awaiting Fate to pick a NEW Link in the blood line to find it!

Wow! I don't even know! Some of you may have already known this, or thought of it and decided it wasn't correct! It may even already be one of many theories you've heard and isn't all that important to you! But this is what I believe about the "Links" of Hyrule and I'm just glad to be able to finally put it into words! Sadly my rant isn't done there. I had one last futile attempt to bring it back down to the ORIGINAL topic!

So! Long story even further shortened!

Do you have to have the Triforce to be a Hero? No!
But do you have to be a Hero to have the Triforce? Still no! You need only be a part of the Knight's blood line.

So as odd as it sounds, it would appear having the ToC doesn't make you a hero, but instead, as a hero, it is just another item you alone can use against the forces of evil!
(And as I digressing)
Do you have to be a Hero to be a Hyrulian Knight? No!
But do you have to be a Hyrulian Knight to be a Link? It looks like it!

Hmmmm...so it would appear fate built in quit a few redundencies to prevent the Triforce of courage from falling into evil hands!
But what does this have to do with the original post?

Well! With PURE logic alone (look above to see logic) we can safely assume that the Skull Knight was a mighty Warrior apart of the blood line of the Hyrulian Knights and therefore decendent from or related to one of many possible already existing Links. Though for all we know, he could very well HAVE been a Hero (or "Link") but I some how doubt that greatly, more greatly doubting any chance of him being The Hero of Time! Furthermore we can assume he did infact have the Triforce, most likely born with it as his son, TP Link, was. If not, as a warrior, he collected the eight pieces after a previous Link left Hyrule causing them to split. Having no great force to battle, Skull Knight could accomplish this with out need of being a Fated Hero.

But that's about all we can assume. And even then, I could still be completely wrong about it all!

Well! There you go! In all honesty (Directing this to PyroBomber) I have a tendency to rant any ways (Just ask any of the admins or mods) but this FAR exceeds what I've ever done before. So please don't get annoyed with me, it will never be this bad again! Promise!
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PostSubject: Re: Link's Father?   Tue Aug 03, 2010 6:42 am

Well that is something. Suppose the mirror shield is his shield the mirror broke out and started to rust and age. Sword is master sword. On the shield is it me or do you see rays of sunlight like the sun on MM mirror shield. The Armor is I guess armor link went back to Hyrule to get after MM. Then he went back into the woods got lost and died.

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PostSubject: Re: Link's Father?   Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:23 am

Shocked You, Link64, will make an excellent theorist. So don't ever say you won't do that again. Don't think that it annoys people. It's a gift.
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PostSubject: Re: Link's Father?   Tue Aug 03, 2010 11:42 am

That is the longest Rant I have ever seen him post.

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PostSubject: Re: Link's Father?   Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:04 pm

Whether my rants are wrong or right. I always put logic behind them. I've never bothered with joining ZU cause almsot everyone there is a huge Zelda fan, I honestly doubt I could compare. So I've always ranted about my ideas on the smaller Zelda sites. Honestly, you aren't the first to say I'm good at what I do, and yet I still have a habit of doubting myself. Either way, (while they may not be as big as that one was) do expect plenty of Zelda rants me!


That being said, I looked back on the idea of Skull Knight being The Hero of Time. And while I still doubt it greatly, I did realize a new possibilty to the facts.

It could be that Skull Knight himself is the son of OOT Link, or at least a direct desendent for what ever reason! It could be that being use to the Master Sword, when OOT Link grew up, he had a usable replica built for simple ease of handle. And though I still question the similarities between Skull Knight's shield and MM Link's creepy faced mirror shield, the custom crafted sword and aged shield could simply have been passed down from OOT Link to Skull Knight, be it by one generation or by many.

The REAL question here is what happened to Skull Knight? If he IS the Hero of Twilight's father, then how did he die? When and where did he learn all these techniques? How is his spirit connected to the howling stones? (notably similar to the gossip stones!) And honestly? What's with the whole Wolf thing? Did he always know Link's destiny? And for how long was Link raised by himself as a ranch hand?

Auuhhggg.... Often the Zelda series leaves us with more questions than answers....
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PostSubject: Re: Link's Father?   Tue Aug 03, 2010 12:48 pm

There's no need to join ZU, we can just set up a theorizing forum here. And yes, people there are zelda fans, but we don't compare each other.

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PostSubject: Re: Link's Father?   Tue Aug 03, 2010 2:16 pm

So skull knight could be OoT links son. With a replica of the master sword he had forged after MM to remind him that he was always the hero of time. The shield is MM's mirror shield. Skull Knight was probably a Hyrulian Knight and that explains the armor. He probably wanted to talk to the Deku Tree or even Saria and somehow got lost in the lost woods turned into a stalfos. But he didn't turn in to a monster stalfos because his father (at that point dead). Used the tri-force of courage to keep him with the same mind but a different appearance.

So Skull Knight in the time of TP wanted to help his son. He was recarnated into a wolf that enabled him to enter the mind of TP link and teach him the hidden swordsman skills of the hyrulean Knights.

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PostSubject: Re: Link's Father?   Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:32 pm

You know what FDL? I made a topic EXACTLY like this back on ZC.

Oh, by the way, his name's The Hero's Shade.
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PostSubject: Re: Link's Father?   Thu Aug 05, 2010 9:33 pm

Really!? Here I was calling him Skull Knight this whole time! .....figures.....He's still awesome though!
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PostSubject: Re: Link's Father?   Fri Aug 06, 2010 7:22 am

Yeah, and the name just makes it even more likely that he's Link's father. The Hero's Shade. Sounds like he's a shadow of his former self. (i know the saying's ghost...but who cares?)
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PostSubject: Re: Link's Father?   Tue Aug 10, 2010 4:43 pm

I think I had a good therorie going. The name adds to it.

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PostSubject: Re: Link's Father?   Thu Sep 09, 2010 7:17 pm

I say that it could be links father.
Maybe he went into the forest to die and he gained new weapons and shield on other adventures we don't hear about.
We may never know if it is or not.
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PostSubject: Re: Link's Father?   Thu Sep 09, 2010 8:09 pm

Like I said, is it TP Link's father? Odds are yes! Is it OOT Link? That seems greatly unlikely. Could he be a decendent of OOT Link? That's always possible, but we have little to no proof.
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PostSubject: Re: Link's Father?   Fri Sep 10, 2010 3:50 pm

So lets say Hero's Shade is TP's Link's father and OoT Link's son. Then who would The Hero Shades Mother be.

Can't be Zelda. Malon always said that she wanted a knight in shining armor to come sweep her off her feet.

No Saria she is a sage.

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PostSubject: Re: Link's Father?   Mon Sep 10, 2012 1:26 pm

now that i have seen the official timeline that Nintendo has released, here is my theory.

after OoT he goes in search of Skull Kid (not Navi, Navi had to go back because link was not a kokiri) and that is what brought him too clock town, in the beginning of MM skull kid is sad because he has no one to play with (because you played with him in OoT but then left aka got sealed in the temple of time, for seven years,) thus he (skull kid) left to find someone new to play with which start MM. after finding skull kid (and beating Majora) you head back to Hyrule and marries Malon, because Epona carries through all three games, OoT, MM, TP. thus OoT link marries Malon and give Epona to his son,that connects these two because link in TP is a rancher, then leaves to go be a knight for Princess Zelda, , Thus the armor and the new sword. When OoT link got old he wanted to die link a true kokiri so he went into Lost Woods and Died. But sense he still held on to part of the tri-force his spirit was sent to the sacred real to await his son, TP link, to teach him the moves of the Hero of Time that has been past down from generation ever since SS.

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